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	<title>Comments on: Energy Myths and Realities by Keith O. Rattie, CEO of Questar</title>
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		<title>By: Humberto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Humberto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2010 14:23:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had the oportunity to just attend to Mr. Rattie give this same presentation at OTC few days ago, and after reading this and also attending another luncheon with Mr. Simons, there is one question that comes to my mind.

How can we achieve energy security by fracting shales to obtain natural gas and not worry about water security? when all these methods to extract natural gas are so intesive on a vital natural resource.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had the oportunity to just attend to Mr. Rattie give this same presentation at OTC few days ago, and after reading this and also attending another luncheon with Mr. Simons, there is one question that comes to my mind.</p>
<p>How can we achieve energy security by fracting shales to obtain natural gas and not worry about water security? when all these methods to extract natural gas are so intesive on a vital natural resource.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 17:39:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I invite Keith Rattie to move some nuclear waste into his basement into his home and live with it.  Then we would see how truly safe he thinks it is.  Just because nuclear power doesn&#039;t create C02 emissions it doesn&#039;t mean it is not the most toxic poison ever created by man.  I send this reply just as I am writing a check for my Questar gas bill.  It made me think of this dear man and his company Questar Gas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I invite Keith Rattie to move some nuclear waste into his basement into his home and live with it.  Then we would see how truly safe he thinks it is.  Just because nuclear power doesn&#8217;t create C02 emissions it doesn&#8217;t mean it is not the most toxic poison ever created by man.  I send this reply just as I am writing a check for my Questar gas bill.  It made me think of this dear man and his company Questar Gas.</p>
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		<title>By: Linda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Linda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 21:46:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How can we get Mr. Rattie on Leno, Letterman, Conan, Fox, Oprah, Ellen and You Tube? I could not agree with Mr. Rattie more.  We should all send this to as many people as we can.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How can we get Mr. Rattie on Leno, Letterman, Conan, Fox, Oprah, Ellen and You Tube? I could not agree with Mr. Rattie more.  We should all send this to as many people as we can.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 20:02:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am currently with a company that injects CO2 into old oil fields to revitalize them. MUCH of the original oil in fields is left in the ground and abandoned when it won&#039;t flow anymore, but now with injection technology, we can force it out.  Check it out : denbury.com.  You don&#039;t see the media mentioning that CO2 can be used to HELP the so-called &quot;energy crisis&quot;.  We want all the CO2 we can get, as it takes pretty large amounts to coax out the oil.  If there was a cost effective way to capture CO2 from producing companies, we would definately be buying it and in that way reducing emissions.  We also are in the process of building several CO2 pipelines across the Gulf coast areas, as mentioned by Keith Rattie here.  I have a feeling this guy would get along with our CEO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am currently with a company that injects CO2 into old oil fields to revitalize them. MUCH of the original oil in fields is left in the ground and abandoned when it won&#8217;t flow anymore, but now with injection technology, we can force it out.  Check it out : denbury.com.  You don&#8217;t see the media mentioning that CO2 can be used to HELP the so-called &#8220;energy crisis&#8221;.  We want all the CO2 we can get, as it takes pretty large amounts to coax out the oil.  If there was a cost effective way to capture CO2 from producing companies, we would definately be buying it and in that way reducing emissions.  We also are in the process of building several CO2 pipelines across the Gulf coast areas, as mentioned by Keith Rattie here.  I have a feeling this guy would get along with our CEO.</p>
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		<title>By: ceolas</title>
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		<dc:creator>ceolas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 20:44:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The 1200   page bloated bill has been passed in the house...

Cap and Trade is a roundabout way of achieving...not very much.

Understanding Cap and Trade, and why it is bad for America and bad for lowering emissions  http://ceolas.net/#cce5x

Market Reduction of CO2: Cap and Trade - or Not?
Basic Idea -- Offsets -- Tree Planting -- Manufacture Shift -- Fair Trade -- Surreal Market -- Real Market -- Allowances: Auctions   Hand-Outs -- Allowance Trading -- Companies: Business Stability   Cost -- In Conclusion

Keith Rattie is hardly alone in being critical of what&#039;s happening
(which is wrong whether pro- or anti-green).

Life can be simple, and life can be hard. 

The issues are emission reduction and future energy supply. 


Given the unproven emission reduction effects on global temperature - and the expense of emission reduction - the key is to engage in activities valuable in themselves, which also keep on track with emission reduction targets at minimal business disruption and expense. 


Sufficient first phase 2020 emission reduction, typically quoted at 15-20% reduction, is achieved by acting on electricity generation (coal, gas) and transport (mainly automobiles) alone, since these 2 sectors account for nearly 80% of fuel combustion emissions, and fuel combustion in turn accounted for 94% of CO2 emissions in 2007 (EPA data). 

The focus on electricity and transport gives several advantages - apart from lowering CO2 emissions: 


1. Local environmental benefit from less pollution of sulphur and all else that&#039;s in the emissions, regardless of the less certain or immediate global benefit from CO2 reduction - and that is one reason why the focus on carbon trading is wrong, compared with the focus on reducing fuel combustion emissions. 
2. Electricity supply alternatives which together with improved grid distribution gives better competition and keeps down electricity bills for consumers. 
3. Transport alternatives (using electricity, hydrogen and other energy sources), which also reduces the dependency on oil imports. 



No Trade Problems 
President Obama has admitted these problems with the Energy Bill. 
Unlike with Cap and Trade, that involves cement, steel and other industries having to face imports from unregulated countries, the electricity and transport changes are not just more limited, but also largely local. 


Funding and Impact 
Equity and long term loan finance can be used: Long term industrial loans from financial institutions, particularly if federal/state guaranteed, give low yearly interest repayments and lessen the effect on electricity bills or transport cost. 
The impact on the businesses is further lessened by the stability and predictability surrounding the funding. 
Since only electricity and transport are involved, other business continues as usual and consumers and society in general are spared expense and disruption. 
This is even more obvious from having no energy efficiency regulation either. 


Compare with 
today&#039;s all-encompassing Cap and Trade (emission trading) suggestions, with unpredictability, expense, and needless disruption from normal business practice on one hand, or unnecessary profiteering from free allowance handouts with little actual emission reduction on the other hand - together with extensive regulation on what people can or can&#039;t buy and use, including light bulbs (supposed big savings simply because that&#039;s waht Americans choose 19 times out of 20 in the shops! Savings aren&#039;t that great anyway, as explained from http://www.ceolas.net/#li1x onwards).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The 1200   page bloated bill has been passed in the house&#8230;</p>
<p>Cap and Trade is a roundabout way of achieving&#8230;not very much.</p>
<p>Understanding Cap and Trade, and why it is bad for America and bad for lowering emissions  <a href="http://ceolas.net/#cce5x">http://ceolas.net/#cce5x</a></p>
<p>Market Reduction of CO2: Cap and Trade &#8211; or Not?<br />
Basic Idea &#8212; Offsets &#8212; Tree Planting &#8212; Manufacture Shift &#8212; Fair Trade &#8212; Surreal Market &#8212; Real Market &#8212; Allowances: Auctions   Hand-Outs &#8212; Allowance Trading &#8212; Companies: Business Stability   Cost &#8212; In Conclusion</p>
<p>Keith Rattie is hardly alone in being critical of what&#8217;s happening<br />
(which is wrong whether pro- or anti-green).</p>
<p>Life can be simple, and life can be hard. </p>
<p>The issues are emission reduction and future energy supply. </p>
<p>Given the unproven emission reduction effects on global temperature &#8211; and the expense of emission reduction &#8211; the key is to engage in activities valuable in themselves, which also keep on track with emission reduction targets at minimal business disruption and expense. </p>
<p>Sufficient first phase 2020 emission reduction, typically quoted at 15-20% reduction, is achieved by acting on electricity generation (coal, gas) and transport (mainly automobiles) alone, since these 2 sectors account for nearly 80% of fuel combustion emissions, and fuel combustion in turn accounted for 94% of CO2 emissions in 2007 (EPA data). </p>
<p>The focus on electricity and transport gives several advantages &#8211; apart from lowering CO2 emissions: </p>
<p>1. Local environmental benefit from less pollution of sulphur and all else that&#8217;s in the emissions, regardless of the less certain or immediate global benefit from CO2 reduction &#8211; and that is one reason why the focus on carbon trading is wrong, compared with the focus on reducing fuel combustion emissions.<br />
2. Electricity supply alternatives which together with improved grid distribution gives better competition and keeps down electricity bills for consumers.<br />
3. Transport alternatives (using electricity, hydrogen and other energy sources), which also reduces the dependency on oil imports. </p>
<p>No Trade Problems<br />
President Obama has admitted these problems with the Energy Bill.<br />
Unlike with Cap and Trade, that involves cement, steel and other industries having to face imports from unregulated countries, the electricity and transport changes are not just more limited, but also largely local. </p>
<p>Funding and Impact<br />
Equity and long term loan finance can be used: Long term industrial loans from financial institutions, particularly if federal/state guaranteed, give low yearly interest repayments and lessen the effect on electricity bills or transport cost.<br />
The impact on the businesses is further lessened by the stability and predictability surrounding the funding.<br />
Since only electricity and transport are involved, other business continues as usual and consumers and society in general are spared expense and disruption.<br />
This is even more obvious from having no energy efficiency regulation either. </p>
<p>Compare with<br />
today&#8217;s all-encompassing Cap and Trade (emission trading) suggestions, with unpredictability, expense, and needless disruption from normal business practice on one hand, or unnecessary profiteering from free allowance handouts with little actual emission reduction on the other hand &#8211; together with extensive regulation on what people can or can&#8217;t buy and use, including light bulbs (supposed big savings simply because that&#8217;s waht Americans choose 19 times out of 20 in the shops! Savings aren&#8217;t that great anyway, as explained from <a href="http://www.ceolas.net/#li1x">http://www.ceolas.net/#li1x</a> onwards).</p>
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		<title>By: Gene Leupp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gene Leupp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 11:43:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a graduate student at USC in 1962, one of my most prominent MBA professors (Dr. White) believed strongly that essentially the world would exhaust its usable crude oil by 1980.  I argued strongly against his argument suggesting we would NEVER run out of crude oil though there would likely come a day eventually when we could not afford to surface it. Costs have actually diminished since that time.

Congratulations for the great picture currently painted by Keith Rattie.  I wish the senate would listen carefully before even voting on the pending Tax and Cap legislation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a graduate student at USC in 1962, one of my most prominent MBA professors (Dr. White) believed strongly that essentially the world would exhaust its usable crude oil by 1980.  I argued strongly against his argument suggesting we would NEVER run out of crude oil though there would likely come a day eventually when we could not afford to surface it. Costs have actually diminished since that time.</p>
<p>Congratulations for the great picture currently painted by Keith Rattie.  I wish the senate would listen carefully before even voting on the pending Tax and Cap legislation.</p>
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		<title>By: Vernon A. Cornell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vernon A. Cornell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 02:12:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Rattie:
You grew up in a tough climate...I was manager of Oscar&#039;s Corpus Christi refinery for awhile
in the early 1980s.
Have you seen the Energy Tribune&#039;s article &quot;Gas, Gas, Gas....   and another about
&quot;Why doesn&#039;t Washington consider natgas...?
I have the feeling it&#039;s not necessary at all to legislate for natural gas...
It is there for the asking at about 5-6 dollars...
What do you think ?
Vern Cornell</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Rattie:<br />
You grew up in a tough climate&#8230;I was manager of Oscar&#8217;s Corpus Christi refinery for awhile<br />
in the early 1980s.<br />
Have you seen the Energy Tribune&#8217;s article &#8220;Gas, Gas, Gas&#8230;.   and another about<br />
&#8220;Why doesn&#8217;t Washington consider natgas&#8230;?<br />
I have the feeling it&#8217;s not necessary at all to legislate for natural gas&#8230;<br />
It is there for the asking at about 5-6 dollars&#8230;<br />
What do you think ?<br />
Vern Cornell</p>
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		<title>By: Charlie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charlie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 13:24:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many thanks to Mr. Rattie, his facts, and his logic.

Five comments:
1. The &quot;greenies&quot; who say we are destroying our planet with CO2 are the same people who deplore the harvesting of the South American rain forests, which of course require CO2 to live on, and which in exchange give off oxygen that all animals, including humans, live on.  Greenies speak with forked tongue.

2. The media thrive on sensationalism and bad news.  &quot;Man was murdered last night&quot; will be a headline.  &quot;Millions were not murdered last night&quot; will not.  Dog bites man is not news.  Man bites dog is news.  The media has their own agenda and on top of the list is to stay in business.  They are not entirely stupid.  They must think that what they do is the best way for them to survive.  This applies to the politics displayed by some of the media also.

3. I like Jen&#039;s idea of the expedition to protect polar bears from shotguns.  Send socialists.  That way there will be fewer socialists and a larger number of well-fed polar bears -- dual benefits.

4. Time Magazine apparently doesn&#039;t understand that polar bears are like the rest of us.  They die from various causes -- unrelated to rationed socialized health care, I might add.

4. If everybody on the planet held their breath for an hour a day that would reduce CO2 exhaled by humans by 1/24th -- about 4%.  Our politicians could lead the way.  This would not only help reduce CO2 but during our politicians&#039; one daily hour of holding their breath they would not be getting us deeper in debt.

5. I&#039;m getting the idea that the socialist agenda is not so much about logical solutions to problems but about the power to tell other people what to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many thanks to Mr. Rattie, his facts, and his logic.</p>
<p>Five comments:<br />
1. The &#8220;greenies&#8221; who say we are destroying our planet with CO2 are the same people who deplore the harvesting of the South American rain forests, which of course require CO2 to live on, and which in exchange give off oxygen that all animals, including humans, live on.  Greenies speak with forked tongue.</p>
<p>2. The media thrive on sensationalism and bad news.  &#8220;Man was murdered last night&#8221; will be a headline.  &#8220;Millions were not murdered last night&#8221; will not.  Dog bites man is not news.  Man bites dog is news.  The media has their own agenda and on top of the list is to stay in business.  They are not entirely stupid.  They must think that what they do is the best way for them to survive.  This applies to the politics displayed by some of the media also.</p>
<p>3. I like Jen&#8217;s idea of the expedition to protect polar bears from shotguns.  Send socialists.  That way there will be fewer socialists and a larger number of well-fed polar bears &#8212; dual benefits.</p>
<p>4. Time Magazine apparently doesn&#8217;t understand that polar bears are like the rest of us.  They die from various causes &#8212; unrelated to rationed socialized health care, I might add.</p>
<p>4. If everybody on the planet held their breath for an hour a day that would reduce CO2 exhaled by humans by 1/24th &#8212; about 4%.  Our politicians could lead the way.  This would not only help reduce CO2 but during our politicians&#8217; one daily hour of holding their breath they would not be getting us deeper in debt.</p>
<p>5. I&#8217;m getting the idea that the socialist agenda is not so much about logical solutions to problems but about the power to tell other people what to do.</p>
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		<title>By: Jen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 22:20:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s unfortunate that politics, common sense and science are relegated to such different realms.  I spent the past six years working for a heavy coal based energy company.  I&#039;ve since left but the insight it provided will be with me forever.

I have multiple degrees from a technical university.  I left there believing that there were singular, true answers to questions if we worked hard enough to find them.  Politics and industry have showed the error of my ways.  The &quot;truth&quot; is generally what is bought and paid for by the most influential.  Me, I prefer science, theorems and proofs.  That said, thanks to Mr. Rattie for his facts and figures.  I both enjoyed them (I laughed out loud - I&#039;m considering mounting an expedition to protect polar bears from shotguns) and have shared his article with my friends.  I can only hope that reason wins the day and &quot;hype and hope&quot; are required to show proof besides &quot;and then by a miracle - *poof* there&#039;s your result.&quot;  That never worked in Calculus class either.

You made my day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s unfortunate that politics, common sense and science are relegated to such different realms.  I spent the past six years working for a heavy coal based energy company.  I&#8217;ve since left but the insight it provided will be with me forever.</p>
<p>I have multiple degrees from a technical university.  I left there believing that there were singular, true answers to questions if we worked hard enough to find them.  Politics and industry have showed the error of my ways.  The &#8220;truth&#8221; is generally what is bought and paid for by the most influential.  Me, I prefer science, theorems and proofs.  That said, thanks to Mr. Rattie for his facts and figures.  I both enjoyed them (I laughed out loud &#8211; I&#8217;m considering mounting an expedition to protect polar bears from shotguns) and have shared his article with my friends.  I can only hope that reason wins the day and &#8220;hype and hope&#8221; are required to show proof besides &#8220;and then by a miracle &#8211; *poof* there&#8217;s your result.&#8221;  That never worked in Calculus class either.</p>
<p>You made my day.</p>
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		<title>By: Seamus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seamus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 15:19:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bravo Mr. Rattie for injecting some common sense into this debate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bravo Mr. Rattie for injecting some common sense into this debate.</p>
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